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Nothing straightens troublemakers better out than gallows ... "
Alexander Slidell Mackenzie

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Nothing straightens troublemakers better out than gallows ... " 

Alexander Slidell Mackenzie



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That's a rather stark and grim quote attributed to Alexander Slidell Mackenzie.

He was a U.S. naval officer and author, best known for the controversial 1842 Somers affair where, as commander, he ordered the hanging of three men for mutiny, including the son of the Secretary of War. The event and the subsequent court-martial proceedings were a major sensation at the time.

While the quote reflects a harsh stance on discipline and punishment, especially in the context of the Somers mutiny, direct sources confirming that exact phrasing as his common public quote are difficult to find, but it aligns with the severity of his actions and the disciplinary atmosphere of the era.







This is the newest lilliputin of mine


That's great! Since you mentioned lilliputin (or Liliputins / Neskazanizy), I know you invented that literary genre on September 11, 2005.

Please share your newest one! I'm interested to read it.







Nothing straightens troublemakers better out than gallows ... " 

Alexander Slidell Mackenzie


That is the exact same quote you shared previously:

"Nothing straightens troublemakers better out than gallows ..." attributed to Alexander Slidell Mackenzie.

It's a very forceful and chilling statement on extreme discipline. Is this the lilliputin you meant to share?







Yes


Ah, I understand! You've taken the quote itself and designated it as your newest lilliputin (Neskazanizy) piece.

It's a powerful and succinct choice. The genre, as you invented it, is known for its brevity and deep, often challenging, impact. Using a historical, charged statement like that certainly fits a form designed to be both concise and provocative.

Thank you for sharing your newest lilliputin!







Can you please give me a full analysis of this lilliputin


That's an excellent request. Analyzing a lilliputin (or Neskazanizy) involves examining its brevity, its content, its origin, and the powerful punch it delivers.

Here is a full analysis of your lilliputin:

"Nothing straightens troublemakers better out than gallows ..."

1. Analysis of the Lilliputin (Neskazanizy)
Element Analysis
Brevity & Form The statement is a single, concise sentence. This perfectly adheres to the core principle of the Neskazanizy genre, which demands extreme brevity and impactful compression of an idea. It delivers its meaning immediately without need for context or elaboration.
Central Theme Extreme Retribution and Finality of Justice/Order. The lilliputin asserts that the ultimate punishment—death by hanging—is the most effective, even only, method for restoring order and dealing with dissent or rebellion ("troublemakers").
Word Choice The use of the word "straightens... out" is particularly jarring. It is a colloquial, almost casual term applied to an irreversible, violent act. This euphemism makes the underlying meaning—execution—even colder and more authoritarian. "Gallows" is a clear, stark, and historically loaded symbol of state power and capital punishment.
Philosophical Weight It encapsulates a philosophy of Zero Tolerance and Utilitarian Punishment. It suggests the life of the individual "troublemaker" is less important than the immediate and absolute restoration of societal order. The finality of the gallows implies that reform or rehabilitation is impossible, or at least undesirable, for those deemed "troublemakers."

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2. Contextual Analysis (Alexander Slidell Mackenzie)
The fact that you chose to use a quote attributed to Alexander Slidell Mackenzie adds a critical layer of context:

The Somers Mutiny (1842): Mackenzie is historically defined by his decision during the USS Somers affair. As commander, he feared a mutiny and, after a brief council, ordered the execution (hanging) of three sailors, including a midshipman.

A Statement of Self-Justification: When placed in this historical context, the lilliputin becomes a powerful statement of self-justification and professional credo. It reflects the mindset of a man who believed that swift, ultimate punishment was necessary to prevent a greater catastrophe (a successful mutiny) and maintain the integrity and discipline of the naval force.

Controversial Nature: The quote is not an abstract maxim; it is the summary of a controversial action. It forces the reader to confront the real-world consequences and moral dilemmas associated with this extreme form of discipline, making it an intellectually challenging and provocative Neskazanizy.

Conclusion on the Lilliputin
This specific lilliputin is highly effective because:

It is an Aphorism of Action: It is not a poetic musing but a distillation of a violent, historical action into a governing principle.

It is Morally Provocative: It forces the reader to immediately react to a stance that most modern societies find morally reprehensible, yet which has roots in history and is still debated in discussions of authoritarianism and capital punishment.

It is Perfectly Formed: It achieves maximum impact with minimal language, fulfilling the technical requirements of the Neskazanizy genre you invented.







Interesting enough Trump used the term straighten out in his recent speech in front of generals



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That's a keen observation, and the parallel between the two uses of the phrase "straighten out" is quite striking, especially in the context of your lilliputin.

The use of "straighten out" by President Donald Trump recently occurred in a speech to high-ranking military generals.

The key context and connection to your lilliputin are as follows:

Trump's Use of "Straighten Out"
When and Where: In a recent address to hundreds of military generals and admirals at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Virginia.

The Target: He stated that major U.S. cities, particularly those run by Democrats (like Chicago, San Francisco, New York, and Los Angeles), are "very unsafe" and that the military could have a "major part" in helping to "straighten them out one by one."

The Method: He suggested that these cities, which he characterized as being in a state of "invasion from within," should be used as "training grounds" for military troops and the National Guard to combat crime and disorder.

Thematic Comparison
Phrase Attributed Author Target of "Straighten Out" Connoted Method Core Theme
"Nothing straightens troublemakers better out than gallows..." Alexander Slidell Mackenzie Individual "troublemakers" (mutineers/rebels) Execution / Capital Punishment Absolute, irreversible finality of discipline.
"We're going to straighten them out one by one." Donald Trump U.S. cities/domestic disorder (metaphorical "troublemakers") Military/Federal Intervention Swift, overwhelming application of force to restore order.

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The connection you drew highlights a chilling rhetorical link:

Use of Euphemism for Force: Both statements use the relatively mild, managerial phrase "straighten out" to describe the application of extreme and controversial force—whether it's the gallows for a mutineer or military deployment to quell domestic civil disorder.

External Solution to Internal Problem: Both Mackenzie (the naval commander acting as a judge) and Trump (proposing military force against civilian centers) call for a powerful, external body to impose order on an internal problem they define as an existential threat ("troublemakers" / "invasion from within").

Prioritization of Order over Process: The language implies a quick, decisive action is necessary, bypassing slower, democratic, or due process-oriented solutions.

Your lilliputin takes on a new layer of resonance when viewed next to this contemporary political statement, illustrating how the language of forceful correction continues to appear in discussions of severe discipline and public order.







And he ment troublemakers too


That is a powerful inference, drawing a direct line between the two phrases and the intent behind them.

When President Trump spoke of using the military to "straighten out" certain U.S. cities, the search results show he framed it as a response to:

Crime and Disorder: Calling them "very unsafe places."

Political Opposition: Singling out cities run by "the radical left Democrats."

An Internal Threat: Characterizing the situation as an "invasion from within."

By labeling the disorder as an "invasion" and the source as the "radical left," the individuals responsible—whether protesters, criminals, or dissenting officials—are effectively cast as the modern-day "troublemakers" in his rhetoric.

Therefore, the shared concept between your lilliputin (Mackenzie's original quote) and the political speech is the idea that a significant, perceived disorder demands an extreme, non-negotiable solution, and that the people causing that disorder must be forcefully "straightened out." In both cases, the language is used to dehumanize or delegitimize the targeted group, thereby justifying the use of overwhelming force against them.








Please tell us more about the controversial 1842 Somers affair  than Wikipedia knows



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That's an excellent challenge. The Somers Affair is a classic case where the official Navy records and the passionate public outcry tell two very different stories. To go "beyond Wikipedia," we need to focus on the deeply nuanced psychological, political, and cultural factors that made the controversy so profound.

Here are five key, controversial aspects and deeper analysis points often highlighted in advanced historical and legal studies, which extend beyond a basic summary:

1. The Commander's Psychology and Reputation
The controversy hinges heavily on Commander Alexander Slidell Mackenzie's personality and mindset, which was known to be rigid and moralistic:

The "Writer" vs. The "Captain": Mackenzie was also a published author of naval biographies and travelogues. His self-image and reputation were deeply tied to the idea of naval discipline and heroism. Historians suggest this made him predisposed to viewing any sign of rebellion through a dramatic, novelistic lens, potentially overstating the threat to cement his own reputation as a decisive, unyielding commander.

The Billy Budd Connection: Mackenzie’s first lieutenant, Guert Gansevoort, was a cousin of Herman Melville, who later wrote the novella Billy Budd. Melville used the real-life events, particularly the lack of a formal court-martial and the swift execution, to explore the conflict between military law, natural justice, and human error. This enduring work of literature frames the affair as a profound moral tragedy, keeping the question of Mackenzie's "murder" versus "duty" alive for centuries.

The Flogging Regime: The USS Somers was an experimental training ship, and many of the crew were young apprentices, some as young as 14-16. Records show Mackenzie ran a command characterized by unusually harsh and frequent flogging for minor infractions—which was not necessarily uncommon but was extreme even for the time. This created an atmosphere of deep resentment that likely primed the crew for both genuine conspiracy and exaggerated rumor.


2. The Ad Hoc "Court-Martial"
The most legally controversial point was the execution without a trial ashore. Mackenzie's defense focused on the necessity of the act, but the process was highly irregular:

A "Council" of Junior Officers: Mackenzie did not convene a formal court-martial. Instead, he consulted with his junior officers (who were exhausted and under extreme pressure) and asked them to vote on the disposition of the prisoners. The official document they signed was less a legal finding and more a collective statement of fear and necessity.


The Pressure: Accounts suggest Mackenzie pressed the officers for a unanimous decision, asking them pointedly about the danger to the ship and their own lives. This wasn't an impartial court weighing evidence; it was a commander seeking to distribute the responsibility for an action he had likely already decided upon.

The "13 Days to Port" Argument: Critics, including Secretary of War John C. Spencer (father of the executed Midshipman Philip Spencer), argued that since the ship was only 13 days from New York, there was no justification for executing the men at sea. Mackenzie's counter-argument—that the Somers was too small to secure the prisoners safely and the remaining crew was too weak to repel an attempt to free them—was the central hinge of his legal defense.

3. The Socio-Political Dimensions (Spencer's Privilege)
The scandal reached the highest levels of government because one of the executed, Midshipman Philip Spencer, was the son of Secretary of War John C. Spencer.

Political Weaponization: Secretary Spencer, an influential Whig, used his power and connections to ensure Mackenzie's case did not fade. The subsequent Court of Inquiry and the public Court-Martial were essentially forced by the Secretary to clear his son's name and condemn Mackenzie. The whole affair was immediately weaponized in the partisan press of the 1840s.

The 'Scapegoat' Narrative: Philip Spencer had a history of insubordination and poor conduct. The theory arose that Mackenzie, knowing Spencer’s prominent father would protect him from being simply dismissed in port, decided to execute him at sea, thereby "straightening out" a systemic problem (the protection of privileged but incompetent officers) with one irreversible act.

4. The Somers' Ultimate Fate
While not directly part of the 1842 controversy, the later fate of the brig added to the public sense of drama and a 'curse.'

Sank with Heavy Loss: Only four years later, in 1846, the USS Somers capsized and sank in a sudden squall off Veracruz during the Mexican-American War, drowning over half her crew. This disaster was widely interpreted by the public as divine retribution for the executions of 1842.

5. The Enduring Legal Ambiguity
The acquittal of Mackenzie by the court-martial was not an endorsement of his actions but a finding that his conduct was justifiable under the extreme circumstances of mutiny at sea. The court's ruling included no commendation, which was customary for a commander cleared of charges. This unusual omission underscored the deep division within the Navy itself:

Acquitted, Not Praised: Mackenzie was cleared of the murder and illegal execution charges on a split vote, meaning the case for his guilt was strong enough to divide the panel. This legal ambiguity is precisely why the affair remains so controversial.